Don’t tell me you “understand” why I’m vegan. If you understood you’d be vegan, too.
Understanding doesn’t equal agreement. I understand why Walter White started to cook meth, doesn’t mean I’m gonna buy an RV and a barrel of methylamine.
I understand why Bruce Wayne reckons putting on a rubber suit and running around the city after criminals is the best way to spend an afternoon. But I’ve got a lot of sitting down to do.
Norwegians believe spaying or neutering a dog is cruel
“You can see he’s still got his balls,” Rolf said in his singsong way as we walked the two and a half miles around Songsvann, a wooded lake on the west side of Oslo.
Rolf was talking about Ennis, his Airedale terrier who was tearing around off lead.
“Why don’t you neuter him?” I asked with some astonishment.
“In Norway we don’t do that,” Rolf explained. “We also don’t clip their ears or cut their tails. We believe it’s cruelty to animals.”
Not to spay is considered cruel in America but there’s clearly another way to think of it. Could you imagine a time when every American dog owner was so responsible we would not have to submit man’s best friend to a painful operation?
The really interesting thing is that even though dogs aren’t typically fixed in Norway and other Scandinavian countries, there is no overpopulation problem with dogs in those countries. In fact, there are so few dogs needing homes that shelters in Scandinavian countries often have to import dogs from elsewhere in Europe to meet the demand for rescue dogs.
It’s not whether a dog is fixed or not that solves the overpopulation problem but the attitude of the owners and their willingness to take responsibility for their animals.
Also let’s please not forget the health risks involved in keeping a cat or dog intact in our society. Not only is there the chance of them getting knocked up by the neighbor’s animal, but there are lots of behavioral problems (and physical messes) that many people are not prepared to deal with (marking, increased territorial aggression, animals going into heat and making noises/bleeding, etc) AND there is also evidence that animals that are not spayed or neutered (but never bred) are at risk for cancer in their reproduction organs.
Obviously neutering and spaying all the animals is not the answer, we still need loving homes and to fight to make our shelters 99% no-kill! But I’d rather see animals neutered than killed, and Americans have been systematically TERRIBLE at making good decisions for their pets, especially when it comes to reproduction.
And NO your dog/cat does not miss their bits or feel less manly/feminine or consciously know that they are infertile now - that’s all pointless personification and I’ve seen too many people use “but I feel bad for him/I don’t want him to hate me” as a reason not to neuter a dog that has umpteen problems related to breeding behaviors that have been exacerbated by lack of training. Does it solve all the problems? No. But it makes things a lot easier and with a lot more margin for error.
I have no doubt that dogs in Norway are well taken care of and for the most part are well-trained and not running amuck in the streets making puppies. But I have seen so many puppies on facebook and craigslist that may or not end up in good homes because of their size and breed and origin. So until our society wizens up, I’m not going to tell people to stop spaying/neutering their animals.
Not only that, but there’s this lovely thing called pyometra that can happen in unspayed female dogs and cats. I’ve assisted in surgeries where this had happened, and I would much rather just have my dog spayed than have to put her in emergency surgery to remove the sack of puss that used to be her uterus.
I’ve worked for shelters and rescues since I was 16, and the entire system is a complete mess and in need of a massive do-over.
-NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THERE’S THIS LOVELY THING CALLED STUMP PYOMETRA THAT CAN HAPPEN IN SPAYED FEMALES SOOO IDK
-Pyo’s not that common. The symptoms are usually easy to spot, and it has a reasonably good prognosis when caught early (like 1% die)
-Spayed bitches can still get mammary tumours, especially if spayed after 1 years old. Less than half of mammary tumours are malignant.
-Speutering DOUBLES the risk of BONE CANCER which is already fairly common in some breeds, while removing the risk of testicular cancer which… hardly ever happens in dogs and has an excellent prognosis anyway.
-Here’s a fun fact for you: Speutering INCREASES risk of orthopedic disorders (growth plates, dysplasia, patellar luxation etc), adverse reactions to vaccines, ACL rupture, hip dysplasia for early neuters, various genital disorders (incontinence, recurring UTIs, recessed vulvas, vaginal dermatitis, vaginitis) in bitches (the vag NEEDS the first heat cycle to develop normally, no matter how much you want a tiny discreet vag on your dog), hypothyroidism, aforementioned DOGGY ALZHEIMERS, several cancers (osteosarcoma, lymphosarcoma, hemangiosarcoma, prostate cancer, cancers of the urinary tract and bladder, aaaaand mastocytoma), hormone related alopecia
-Speutering everything MASSIVELY CONSTRICTS GENE POOLS.
-Marking/mounting/humping in dogs is a training issue
-Read the fucking source link. If your animal is severely stressed by heats or overly hormonal you are allowed to have them spayed if your vet agrees bc the animal’s welfare is the entire point.
-Breed for better temperaments and you won’t have to castrate them to cover up the problem! Aggressive and extremely fearful animals are better off euthanized than alive when their entire existence is fear and stress? Their quality of life should be more important than wehwehweh no-kill shelters (especially with fearful male dogs, because the testosterone provides them with false bravado, depriving them of that makes them even more fearful wow what a good idea)
-Same-sex-aggression and aggression in general is largely hereditary not hormonal (but even so you’re usually allowed to castrate a dog-aggressive animal to see if it helps). The only aggression helped by speutering is aggression over bitches in heat which is easy to manage anyway
-It’s really not that difficult to keep intact animals away from each other. The bitch is only willing to breed for a couple of days during a heat cycle. Reasonably obedient dogs still get to run off leash when they’re not in heat!
-We also have a law that requires you to be in control of your animals at all times fyi
-Speutering dogs (not cats!) in Norway is illegal because it is an unnecessary surgery performed for the owner’s convenience.
-Spoiler alert: your society is never going to “wisen up” unless you educate them
To all those 12.9 year-olds on Tumblr,
I think we all know where you really belong:
I think you should shut the fuck up
we RP smut. I do it all the fucking time.
We write fanfics.
We love yuri and yaoi.
We have dirty minds.
Looks like we misjudged those 12.9 year olds.